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勉之赵より:

8月 18, 2022 3:03 pm

because chamber actually is a duelist in the game

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Noah Allen より:

8月 18, 2022 3:09 pm

It’s just because basically every single initiator is overtuned imo. The power creep is significant. Nerf them a bit and the duelists will come back. The current meta is just “no seeing allowed”.

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Nate Smith より:

8月 18, 2022 3:09 pm

There is just a stigma that “you need a duelist because duelist are the best at getting kills.” When having more utility can better compliment a team. If they removed the term duelist, initiator, sentinal, and controller I thing it would change agent picks especially in ranked play.

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dBug より:

8月 18, 2022 3:16 pm

Use can use Kayo as initiator/ dualist in csgo fashion. Chamber is also like dualist/sentinel hybrid

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Daniel より:

8月 18, 2022 3:20 pm

I would like to see a team comp evenmore like goats in Valorant with Skye heal and Brimstone Stim being like Lucio in Overwatch

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Daniel Ramirez より:

8月 18, 2022 3:22 pm

Idk about others but my duelists die last at least

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Steve Fan より:

8月 18, 2022 3:22 pm

nah they actually got a duelist: chamber

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José Fonseca より:

8月 18, 2022 3:26 pm

Goats all over again kek

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Sebastian Roskjær より:

8月 18, 2022 3:29 pm

“And they do have a lot of succes” * down 5-1*

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Adrien Cheung より:

8月 18, 2022 3:30 pm

I feel like duelists are necessary on fracture, not on attack but on defense. Without duelists aggressive bridge crunches or spawn crunches aren’t really possible without a duelist to create that space

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RUBB1SH より:

8月 18, 2022 3:39 pm

meanwhile in ranked

Is This The No Controller Meta?

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Aidan Carmody より:

8月 18, 2022 3:54 pm

The problems that duelists have is that they specialize in being forgiving instead of being impactful. Imagine someone who is literally perfect at mechanics and will not mess up under any circumstance. What happens if this person plays Reyna? absolutely nothing except for leer. As this player would take very little damage in gun fights due to their mechanical skill they gain no real benefit from the heal. And also because of their mechanical skill they would rarely need to use dismiss as they are almost impossible to catch out. So the only ability they can really make use of is leer. For someone who is really good Reyna is just “Funny Flash Lady” and nothing more. So in all cases it would be better to play a character like Skye who actually has more than one ability. The same argument works in varying degrees for all of the other duelists except for Phoenix who is an underpowered controller initiator hybrid with very expensive abilities (he does not have enough power in his kit to act as a consistent all-rounder which is what he wants to be) (cheapening his kit, putting his molly on a cooldown, and giving him a second wall would most certainly make him viable [probably too good but they could then nerf him until his balance is good) and Yoru who has the problem of just actually loosing by default (the only real way for Yoru to contribute to the game is by gambling but since gambling is naturally stacked against him [otherwise he would just actually brainlessly meme you. which is stupid] he just looses because he lacks options that have positive risk-return)

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cringe central より:

8月 18, 2022 3:56 pm

OK Y IS SEN ZOMBS ON T1???

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Corroderptor より:

8月 18, 2022 4:04 pm

Duelists(especially Jett, Raze and Neon) stray the furthest from your base cs character so I get why Riot could appear to play it “too safe” with duelists.

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Aidan Carmody より:

8月 18, 2022 4:06 pm

Also side comment to make chamber healthy they MUST increase the arm time of Rendezvous. The problem with Chamber is that he is able to play at too fast of a tempo for a sentinel. If they nerf him in other ways they are just watering down his kit and turning him into a derpy duelist.

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Irisoul より:

8月 18, 2022 4:22 pm

Omen and Kayo should just be counted as duelist tbh, they even play like one

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HappyPlaty より:

8月 18, 2022 4:28 pm

Team liquid had a phase where they would play Reyna on bind which maybe classifies as no duelist. They also had a game where they tried sova breach viper sage cypher. The comp was a bit nutty and I think they lost so maybe they had struggles with entering.

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JMR Gamer より:

8月 18, 2022 4:45 pm

I love how he has the dramatic opening, “no duelist” and then says, “so yeah…” and goes extremely casual teacher mode, and it’s really funny

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Niron Chhlom より:

8月 18, 2022 4:47 pm

the movie recap bg music…so soothing

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TheButterGolem より:

8月 18, 2022 4:47 pm

yes they are, every first 5 seconds in the round

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