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コメント（660件）

peace chan より:

5月 22, 2023 1:43 pm

The stupid thing is. They themselves wants to make the fans to be kinda localised to a specific vtuber. They should also realise that doing so when they do this, that same fans can definitely be another anti to other vtuber in the same company

Wanna prove? Look at the fans of the former niji id who either now in a death spiral, or graduated. Their fans genuinely blacklisted nijisanji and nijisanji is now kinda salted their earth in Indonesia

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Vivi より:

5月 22, 2023 1:43 pm

Honestly, in Millie’s defense, it’s not even that big of a deal. You guys just wanted to make it a big deal, that’s why that happen. Toxicity of vtubers community fans is so big. You guys judge these vtubers but you guys yourselves are doing same thing as them. You all are just not that relevant so you don’t get bashed for it.

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Angel Quiñones より:

5月 22, 2023 1:43 pm

Great video.

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Netto Azure 🦊🐑 より:

5月 22, 2023 1:45 pm

Man, understaffing on the back end is always an issue in any industry.

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Special70 より:

5月 22, 2023 1:45 pm

super nice video
really enjoyed it

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Jaco より:

5月 22, 2023 1:47 pm

Honestly I thought Millie’s secret GC stream was the most ingenious stream i’ve ever watched. I’ve never been so engrossed in a stream so much. It’s funny and entertaining trying to guess who’s who, it’s a clever way on throwing shades to trolls and a fun way for niji-livers to relieve stress. I mean i’m pretty sure anyone who watch vtubers has an alt account they use to express themselves with more freedom so why can’t the vtubers be a 4channer too. The only negative about that stream is that it feeds the trolls and maybe made some niji-livers uncomfortable. But the secret GC stream has more positives than negative. If only Mysta read the memo and just gone along with it rather than tweeting about it, it wouldn’t have received so much backlash. No matter what people say, it’s a unique and a legendary creative stream that only a few people can ever think of doing especially on a vtubing platform. I just hope that incident won’t hinder the creative mind of Millie.

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Nostawgator より:

5月 22, 2023 1:47 pm

35:58 The fanbase and tribalism, oh boy this is my favorite topic after what was i saw with my own eyes

I remember when Holoid-1 will made their debut the Indonesian niji fanbase tried to gatekeep them. Now Holoid eating not just Indonesian but the SEA market

Or when the fans made a video on YouTube comparing both 3D event, mocking and laughing at how laggy hololive 3D back then, it has around 1M view, i don’t know if it still exist. Now Hololive has the second biggest studio mocap in Japan to improve their 3D event to whole new level

Remember when salome finally break Gura’s record? The fans went wild and started thinking she is the Gura killer, the one whose gonna replace Pekora as #1 female vtuber streamer. Poor miss million now she even barely to hit 10k ccv

This fans are also responsible on why Mano Aloe graduated, harassing her online after she gave a hint that manjisanji are in fact a black company

This is what a real karma i guess

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Minato Baqua より:

5月 22, 2023 1:50 pm

Alright bois, we’re here first for the drama before who knows until nijisanji take this video down

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Aisu Kururimu より:

5月 22, 2023 1:50 pm

Honestly imo, they sealed their fate when they chose to remove NijiID’s status as it’s own branch. Hololive on the other hand, chose to keep their HoloID branch despite there was also some people who said that HoloID would be able to do so much better if they merge with HoloEN. However, in the end, HoloID became the bridge, the middle-ground, a 3rd neutral party for HoloEN and HoloJP to link their cultural differences and have an overall easier time to interact with each other

HoloID and it’s fanbase don’t share the same concern some EN viewers and JP viewers have with their vtubers. They had no problem doing collabs with NijiID without suffering backlash from the tribalism mentality that plagues parts of the EN community, and they can do collabs with Holostars without suffering backlash from the idol culture mentality from parts of the JP community.

NijiID also had the similar kinda freedom and talent management, so if managed well, NijiID could’ve also become Nijisanji’s 3rd neutral party in their attempt to link cultural differences in their fanbase. So now that they don’t have NijiID anymore, NijiEN, and possibly also NijiJP are having difficulties when it comes to breaking out from the usual custom, because there’s no bridge for them to cross to reach their destination

For me the best example on why having an ID branch for a multi-lingual and multi-gender agency is pretty important is the HoloID x Holostars arc. Back in the days when idol culture were even more widespread in JP, the Holostars guys barely goes out of their comfort zone. They were worried of the potential backlash that await the girls if they collab with Hololive too much, so they mostly refrained from doing so. Things only change when HoloID started to reach out to them. While Fubuki, Sora, Coco and Matsuri all played their part to give the boys some exposure, HoloID had something none of the JP girls could give for Holostars, and that is the feeling of getting support for collabing with female vtubers. See, with the open-minded JP girls they usually can just let out a relieved sigh that they didn’t get a backlash, but with HoloID, they got a pretty good deal of support from the ID fanbase following their collab. Not out of pity, but because the ID fanbase genuinely find them as fun streamers when they interacted with the ID girls. That motivated the Holostars guys to step up their game; Temma started his English lessons ever since, Roberu now have the confidence to hold his talk shows with a female vtuber co-host (Kagura Mea), Astel gained some confidence in asking female vtubers to do collab gameplays or song covers (he stuttered a lot around female vtubers before), etc. What the guys did was against the normal custom of male JP vtubers, but they felt confident in doing it because HoloID was there to act as their bridge to reach their goal. As a result, now Holostars is arguably one of the most ‘free’ group in their talent freedom and management, on par with HoloID itself even imo

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Ruka sub ch. より:

5月 22, 2023 1:51 pm

Thanks depresses Nosagi for your drama autopsies and analysis.

Welp Am just sad now, just wanted to watch a funny purple dragon girl play pew pew games after the OG dragon girl graduated but can’t enjoy it now knowing it’s so bad after so much drama and politics.

Twitter politicization actually having dystopian blacklist based on political parties with actual evidence after they got bought the general unpleasant situation from the C***d (The proof of twitter shenanigans during that time https://youtu.be/e2e3QAYrzR0 ) the twitter audiences demographic fueled that twitter politicizing.

Guess it’s finally time to vote with my wallet and peace out of both Niji and Holo holes.

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Pyro Gobbo Ch. EN より:

5月 22, 2023 1:51 pm

The main risk for Nijisanji is their best talents being offered way better contracts.

Not even money-wise, just better working conditions.

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Ian Corder より:

5月 22, 2023 1:53 pm

The hell was that clip at 4:30

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ノイスレブより:

5月 22, 2023 1:54 pm

Niji’s rep? Lol don’t care, I still prefer Niji, they have way better chemistry, and I say this as a former hololive fan

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I comment the first thing that comes on my mind より:

5月 22, 2023 1:54 pm

Out of topic, but this is one of the major reason why i think Oshi no Ko will be one of the most famous anime to date, as it shows not just idol culture but the entire entertainment industry

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Alfred Ong より:

5月 22, 2023 1:55 pm

When both Nijisanji and Hololive are so bathed in their own problems till its actually more appropriate to title any future videos “The Absolute State of Vtubing” instead. There seems to be no paradise out there huh?

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Jordi Setiawan より:

5月 22, 2023 1:55 pm

Stupid nijisanji

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SuB より:

5月 22, 2023 1:56 pm

Meanwhile, tsukino mito: disses her antis on livestreams and laughs at their spam, makes audience depressed during Christmas on purpose, makes ng content on the regular and perform meth metal at concert ^.^

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Maison D より:

5月 22, 2023 1:58 pm

I dont really care too much about drama, but I draw the line when my oshi gets involve for something they did or didn’t do.

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Mevergonnarunaround anddesertyou より:

5月 22, 2023 1:59 pm

damn a 52min vid, this is godly

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GrimRipper より:

5月 22, 2023 2:00 pm

52 minutes…damn.

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