Is Pretender Liz Good? (Fate/Grand Order) │ ゲーム攻略youtubeリンクまとめ-ゲームBBS7

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コメント（18件）

Stevie A より:

10月 14, 2022 2:11 pm

My opinion on her is she’s great for starter accounts, the issue is that you can’t access her event unless you cleared roughly half of the Lostbelt arc

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adnan khamis より:

10月 14, 2022 2:12 pm

Sussy baka

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ali speed より:

10月 14, 2022 2:20 pm

her loli nature takes away any appeal l may have found in farming her. But since the f2p CE is good, l will get her along the way to getting the CE

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RevolverCrow より:

10月 14, 2022 2:24 pm

She’s a mini helena for starter accounts or people who don’t have a good charger a party wide 20% on a 4 star is op, or is pretty good but a little late. She’s a farmer you can use for a wave and then if the next enemy is too strong you have some stars others can use to finish off enemies.

She’s not made to be exclusively a looper imo, or was intended to be one.

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King Cobra より:

10月 14, 2022 2:34 pm

tl; dr – she’s ok but not optimal.

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ALI 15 より:

10月 14, 2022 2:51 pm

In na I have the chrismas CE 4/5 anyone know how can i get the last one?

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tran huynh より:

10月 14, 2022 2:53 pm

Mean while, US server is Liz-less and use Xmas event to celebrate… may be Halloween.

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Hevy より:

10月 14, 2022 3:45 pm

So they made a loli version of a character that is already a loli. its like, “we heard that you like loli, so we put some extra loli in your loli”. what a world we live in

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Anon John より:

10月 14, 2022 4:09 pm

Not particularly, as she falls short of the reqs to be fully compatible with Double Koyan + Oberon, and her supportive capablities are powercrepted by Welfare Waver, a number of older and newer Starter *4 Stars, and the likes of Asclepius and Saleri if you can/have gotten them off a Class Banner or Rate Up Banner. Girl is a semi-decent buffer on her own merits, and Welfare Servant with party charge is still pretty good for underdeveloped accounts that skipped out on Waver or similar, but overall her main value lay in the facts that she’s the first Welfare Pretender we got and she’s the most adorable Liz variant to date.

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HitsujiMamoru より:

10月 14, 2022 4:25 pm

That’s the thing: she is not “free for everyone”. You need to complete Olympus to play this one.
She is not aimed at veterans or players who started a few days ago. She is meant for people who are speedrunning the story to be there in time for LB7.

When you think about it, it makes sense that we got 3 Extra Class freebies this year (all from events that require Lostbelt completion, as some sort of “play along” reward). If Christmas is LB6-locked and Santa is Foreigner, it will be the final piece, the unit to help fight Berserkers.

Anyway, I think Eliza is there to be a good support, and a Knight farmer to top off the year^^

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Andrés Páez より:

10月 14, 2022 4:43 pm

She’s literally meh design-wise and kit-wise. And another Liz??? 💀💀💀💀💀💀

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Sergobot より:

10月 14, 2022 5:52 pm

She’s…..cute

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Chibizilla より:

10月 14, 2022 8:00 pm

This Liz certainly finds herself in a strange situation. She’s certainly looks to have what it got to be a pretty good servent, but she isn’t optimized in anything well enough to give her a proper role. A decent jack of traits that would great for new players (if they could get her), with no real niche to give her a specific role of some kind, nor enough power to be used widely like jack of trait servents like Von Gogh. So developed accounts aren’t gonna have much use beyond using her because you want to

How unoptimized she is, is ridiculous. Because, first off, she’s a welfare with the traits to make her amazing for new players. But, as most people already know, you have get through Lostbelt 5 to do her event, which takes a bloody awhile to do. Enough time to have a developed account by the time you get her. Then there’s her actual kit. Her first skill gives her NP gain up, which is nice for quick/art cards, but her NP is Buster. That means she would rather have the NP Damage up, the ability to reach 50% crit damage, or even a quick np to get refund from NP Gain up. She doesn’t have any of those though, not for herself. What she does have only for herself is her 3rd skill. A skill that I think she would have gotten more use out of if it had its numbers lowered by 10% and then made into another party wide effect. It would mix well with all her other party buffs, would have given her a niche as Buster/Quick support, and would still keep the Liz’s DPS role. Or they could have added a 10% np Gauge up the third skill or something so she could actually be a practical Buster looper. She has the AoE np, the damage buffs, and almost has the battery to meet the requirement. Just 10% more and then she could at the very least be used for practical looping by her fans, but she doesn’t get access to that. Honestly, without the 30% battery, I’m wondering if she could have done more with a ST NP to have a bit DPS potential. I believe we have alot of AoEs as it is, and maybe she could of had a “versatile boss killer” niche. If she just was little bit different in certain areas, she would have more roles she could be part of, more synergy with her kit, and/or even get a decent niche. Or was free to new comers. That would have been a great niche for her. Alas, that is this all simply wishing for hypotheticals

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Shadow Joestar より:

10月 14, 2022 9:44 pm

I was sick of Liz when I only knew of one of them. And now this. Sheesh.

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OCL 73150 より:

10月 14, 2022 10:12 pm

Now they’re making’em even younger, still

She’s so CUTE and FUNNY 😭😭😭

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Jer Ri より:

10月 15, 2022 4:37 am

So Himiko has a little Dragon sister to help out

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moontecker より:

10月 16, 2022 6:37 pm

They should make Liz as 5 star now.

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shikiyama より:

10月 17, 2022 9:27 am

liz is such a weird servant in terms of skills
it feels like they wanted to make a mini-oberon but didnt realize what exactly made oberon good rather than a decent f2p pretender
i honestly wish she was a single target with a bit more selfish skills since alter egos are usually alone on the field since our best alter ego counter is still hephaestion and even kama to a lesser extent when her third skill is up

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