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I think part of the reason that some Saberfaces don’t look like Saberfaces is that they’re drawn by different artists. If you look up Mordred and Nero drawn by Takeuchi they look much more like Artoria. Mordred’s original design (which you can see in DEEN’s FSN adaptation) looks exactly like Artoria, and Nero was designed by Takeuchi to look just like Artoria to trick people into buying Fate/Extra.
Imune to Pigify seems to be mostly related to actual High Servant/God Servants, with an additional caveat being given to mechanical servants (like Tametomo and Mecha Eli) and True Ancestors (Yu Meiren and Archtype Earth/Arcueid). Void Shiki is probably on here because since she reached the Void, she exists outside of the influence of standard magic?
Honestly, the only two I see on here that doesn’t make sense to me are Jiang Ziya/Tai Gong Wang and regular Romulus.
I think the deal here is that the company is not concerned with being entirely consistent in such things. Saberfaces seem to be split between “looks like Saber” and “Is naratively a Saber clone (who was made to resemble Saber just enough making it a self-fulfilling propechy).”
The Forklift certified trait is going to appear during the next Amazoness event and it’s going to be given to Penthesilea rider and is a status she can confer to enemies through her NP, where she channels the spirit of Bezos to banish her opponent to the wage cage.
when the og visual novel came out (or maybe closer to hollow ataraxia) jeanne shows up at a literal saberface, the case with nero is similar before wada. look up the song THIS ILLUSION to get the gist of the designs
“Nero isn’t a Saberface”
Our man hasn’t seen Takeuchi’s design before Arco came in and said “my baby now”.
The thing that always bothered me about trait stuff is you really find it in the game itself which is dumb and literally have to look online if you ever want to check something.
5:08 some of the goddesses there may not be able to turn in to pigs because of the Core of The Goddess skill, which basically able them to conserve their beauty no matter what happens to them, therefore they can’t become bigs because it would make them “uglyer”.
in regards to Saber face. I think whoever is the artist for it has that unique Art style in regards to making the eyes, eyebrows and face in general. Like a signature per se.
Yes I know they have similar faces, but the art style the way they are drawn is really unique. (like ritsuka in the animation series is not a saber face but look at the way his eyes, eyebrows, face features are drawn in. The style of drawing is similar to saber faces in other anime series). Which answers the question why nero, jalter, okita are there. Just look at the art style of the eyes alone.
I know nero got a more unique eyes. But she is definitely a saber face.
Thats why even though some servants are not regarded as a “saber face” they are called saber face because the art style is very similar.
Take for example The art style of Saber, kotomine, rin’s father, kiritsugu, natalia kaminski, in Fate/Zero, Look at how there face and eyes are drawn/designed.
Very unique “art” or look and very similar to ritsuka in the Babylonia anime series (same look as saber face too well the art style of the eyes and face), the Temple of Time Movie etc.
In the other hand, the saber in the original FSN where People die when they are killed.
The art there is a bit more off. I assume they are not the same artist? I might be wong.
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also fionn is definitely not a sabe face. That peon can die in a gutter.
I wonder if there is a correlation to shapeshiifters and pig inmunity
I’m guessing that being “Immune to Pigify” has another stipulation, that being it only works on organic creatures and/or something human. Like take another look at the list, note a lot of mechanical servants that are obviously inhuman (Babbage, the Mecha-Elis, QSH is literally a chad version of AM, and the Sakura 5 are mechanical), also monstrous units such as Hogen and Meiren. As to why Taigong (I think that’s his name?), Romulus as a human, and Parvati are immune? No clue.
Huh. I wonder, why Klidge ignored “kemono” trait. It’s also extremely strange at some points. Like, why Scathach and Bunyan having a bunny suit qualify them for it, yet Bunnytoria with the same f-ing type of clothing doesn’t? Why Ibuki Douji, Vritra and Gorgon qualify, yet Nitocris doesn’t?
Also, Kiichi Hogen, you know, tengu, youkai with bird head?… Yep, you’ve guessed it right, she also doesn’t have trait. What, she is without any obvious animal parts? Ok, I’d grant you that. Then look at Queen of Sheba, who have f-ing animal ears (not sure if they’re supposed to be cat ears, or smth else)! Ding, ding! Also not a “kemono”! ‘Well, she’s a human, and those ears are just a random shit.’ By that logic Dobrynya is out too, right? Nope, she, unexpectedly, does have “kemono” trait. And, yeah, “unexpectedly”, ‘cause she’s literally in the same situation as Sheba.
Fgo devs literally say “f*ck that logic thingie”. So don’t try to find it.
P.S. Also, Ishtar have good alignment, but Ereshkigal, despite being as kind (if not kinder) as her sister, is considered as evil. You can argue, that Eresh is practically a goddess of death, but Ishtar is a goddess of war (besides everything else), so by that logic she also should be evil. Ah, as another “fun” and “pleasing” point – Melt (who is a f-ing sadist) is also of good alignment. Deal with it.
Some of these immune to piggify chars reasoning could be related to “shape” or “shape shifters that already are something else”? Like Caenis(poseidon blessing already altered her and Ushi tengu teacher are already shape shifted into something else magically, which would stop it? Babbage reality marble must make him have the robo body as he his father of computers etc, Gu-chan can just go and reshape herself. The divinities could be similar, as they are usually here the big gods attributed to something more specific, like Quetz is the sun, Romulus is Roma, so they cant be changed bc they are strongly connected to a concept
I view immune to pig like dnd immutable form
I feel like the Mordred and Nero art comparisons are unfair, they are clearly drawn by different artists in their own style so they will look further removed from the base Saber look, it is the same case with how you mentioned X Alter looks different, but other than the clothes she would look just like Saber Alter if X Alter was drawn by Takeuchi, the difference only being in the artist’s personal style.
Like for Nero, if you looked at Fate Extella’s character art of Nero and Artoria (where they are done by the same artist), it is more clear that they are meant to look very similar to each other.
Kiyo getting the child trait is super annoying because it wasn’t until after she got her summer version where she is very clearly busty and a young woman that one of the people behind the game made a short exploring her backstory and suggested she may have been 12 based on the supposed year her story took place. I outright refuse to believe Kiyo is a little kid. She just does not look childish like Jack, Abby, Illya, Gil, and Nursery. She’s an adult and that’s final!!!
-Kiyo simp
The Pigify one is the funniest to me as I was looking up Caren’s skills since I plan to roll her and I see that passive and was like “Literally only 1 servant can turn you into a pig and we basically never fight her, why do you have this?”
A teenager or adolescent isnt a child…..in regards of Artoria its just her body that is 16/15 and Im talking about OG Artoria. Lily and Castoria are actually 16/15 and I wouldnt consider them a child too.
I also think that the comparison of the saber faces are super farfetched.
MHX is Salter technically but drawn by an other artist thats why she looks different. For example Lartoria (adult body artoria) has also a different artist. So not even the OG Artoria versions have all the same Artist.
Jalter would be better compared to Salter who is Artorias alter and has more similar colo scheme and you have the same comparison as Jeanne and Artoria,
Mordred is Artorias clone and has the same face, its more that the Apoc artist draws very different and if you compare his drawings of Artoria with Modred they look much more alike.
Nero is also different bc of Wada arcos style if you find pics of them being drawn by either both by Takeuchi or Wada then it makes sense.
Saber Lily and Jeanne lily are not the same age at all, Jeanne lily appears to be 8 or ot most 10, while lily is 15/16 thats not the same….
Van gogh is a child servant, that is news to me
The animal characteristics trait is also wonky. Artoria Ruler has it in her first Ascension because of her bunny ears, Astolfo Saber has it because of his bunny ears, and Shiki Saber, Scathcach Lancer, and Paul Bunyan have it thanks to having bunny eared costumes. But Elizabeth, with her horns and tail, Siegfried with his horns, tail and wings and Suzuka Gozen with her fox ears and tail don’t have it. I thought maybe the dragons didn’t count because they’re dragons, but MELUSINE has the trait, too. Suzuka can’t be denied for hers being fake, because literal costumes allow three servants to have the trait. THOMAS EDISON doesn’t have the trait and he has a whole lion head. Caenis lacks it too, despite their horse ears. Red Hare has it, but Chiron doesn’t have it. Not even for his 3rd Ascension. WACK